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To any of my artist friends out there, you ever feel down or disappointed whenever you make a real grand and epic piece of art and you barely get any feedback?

I mean....almost every pic I make I put a lot of heart and effort into, and it just kind of brings me down when I don't get the feedback I'm hoping for. Oh sure, I get a lot of FAVES here and LIKES on Facebook, but I would really appreciate it if people take the time to comment and say why they like the piece. I want to hear from you guys - what I'm doing wrong, what I'm doing right, what I can do to improve, and so on. That's the only way I can learn.

I know I can do the same thing with other artists, but I usually see a lot of pics while on break at work, on my phone, and I just don't have the time to comment. And I admittedly forget to comment once I get home, so I too share the blame. I do try my best to get back to pics I really want to share my thoughts on.

I don't mean to place any pressure on ya guys....if you feel like you have something to say, feel free to do so! :)

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mopeyanimation Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014
I use to feel the same way as you about it, but than I realized I draw for myself and not other people. So I quit caring after that. But, yeah....it would be nice if people gave advice on how to make your artwork better.
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Ixentrick Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014
I never really felt disappointed because I've never really made anything grand and epic so far... :lol:
And frankly, I gave up the idea that one can learn from reading 'critique' of one's work on DA. Having fun is much better than playing 'teachers' for each other (considering that none of us has art education LOL ). ;) What disappoints me is that I can't meet you and other DA pals in person to draw together and that I even can't find time to do more art trades and collabs. :(
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Lotusbandicoot Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Student General Artist
Ugh, I can't even begin to tell you how much I don't like when that happens... :o
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KrDoz Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014
Well I'm guilty to the claim that I don't comment enough, I really do like your art style and I've seen you come a long way since we met in the Raccoons fandom some years back! You've got the drive and determination to better yourself and writing journals like this shows that you care how your art is received by others. It's a healthy feeling to feel neglected, because it makes you stick your head out there more and garner more attention to your art. From the amount of replies on this journal I say you're doing pretty good. A small circle of close friends who fully support you is a thousand times better than 4000+ anonymous faves IMO. I'll try my best to give constructive criticism where I can in the future! First I need to gain some motivation for myself though!
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FreyFox Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I always worry that a picture I spend an untold amount of time on will not be a hit with my audience, but in the end I enjoy the challenge of something more complext than my usual affair. I'm working on a big new picture just now that's taking a lot of my free time up, and delaying Transmission by a few days :P
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GoodCaptainClack Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I definitely understand how you feel on this; I put a lot of hard work into my stories only for very few people to even bother reading them. While the main reason I write is for my own amusement and to express myself, part of the reason I like to write is for other people's entertainment and enjoyment. I like to know what people actually think of my work, and it does give me some satisfaction to know that I'm good enough of a writer to actually be able to capture some people (like you)'s interests. And it just bothers me so much when I put so much hard work and care into writing my stories and filling them with genuine emotion and depth, only for most people to seemingly pass my stuff completely by in favor of something sillier and goofier that probably had much less hard work and effort put into it. I know my stories might be intimidating due to their excessive length (not everybody is going to be willing to put up with thousands upon thousands of words), but sometimes, I just wish more people would let me know what they actually think of what I've written. I'd rather have people saying they don't like my work than just hold their tongues and keep quiet! :D

As for you art, I do try to comment when I can, but I will admit, a lot of the time I just can't think of anything to really say more than "LOL!" or "Great job!" and those are pretty useless comment to make, if I do say so myself :D I'm no artist myself, so I can't really comment on or critique your artist techniques or anything like that! As I said, I can't always think of something good to say, and admittedly, not everything you've drawn has captured my interest (I'm not really into those corny old horror movies like Child's Play, for example so I don't feel I can really comment on those pieces you've done...). Rest assured though, I do like your art style and I actually do like your original stuff (I would definitely like to see more of Paradise Island and Iggie and Friends in the future!), and I will comment if something you've drawn catches my interest or I can think of something funny to say! :)
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Chopfe Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Your stories are always awesome! So detailed and heart-warming! :) I'll have to get back to reading them soon! ;)

Glad to hear you like my original stuff! More of it is definitely on the way this year! :D

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Chandraraj Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have the same problem. I get so shagged out from work by the time I get home, I usually conk out. I don't really comment on a lot of peoples' works until weeks later. It's become a bad habit...I should work on that.

I know the feeling though. No one ever really comments on my works, either. Not that 'comments = greatness' or 'comments = gratification'. I just kinda wanna know how I'm doing. C'est la vie. 
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David31 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I always do if I see a piece that I like, I usually comment on it.
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Chopfe Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And I appreciate that! :D Thanks again!
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David31 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome. :)
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HAFanForever Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Hey man, I know the same feeling when I post my stories/essays on here and FF. It usually bugs me if many people favorite or follow my stories, but don't leave feedback. I like to hear the opinions of others, too. Hey, if it makes you feel any better, I definitely want to browse through your gallery and look at some old Hey Arnold! artwork. ;) :) I will try to do that over the next few days.
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Chopfe Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks, Moira! I really appreciate it! And like I say, I'll try to comment on your stuff when I have free time on my hands. :)
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HAFanForever Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
The same applies to me as well. :)
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AgentC-24 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Shoulda posted it not as a reply, sorry!

Hey there Clint. I've addressed these types of journals before with friends, and I'll be happy to address yours as well. I'll just add te disclaimer that I don't mean to offend and I'm doing this to help out with some understanding here. I agree with AM that it's refreshing to see a journal where you can acknowledge your own lack of action from time to time.

With that said, yes, I think every artist has that picture they were psyched to post due to all their effort and inspiration... And it got a tenth of the comments that an ancient and half-assed doodle of Fanart McFavesalot got. It happens, and the best way to go about it is to move on and keep working at it. Why? I've thought of a few reasons before.

-Like you've said about yourself, many DA'ers have jobs, school, or job searches outside of here. Whether it's manual labor or a desk job, some demands can leave people drained, so commenting on a pic during after hours can seem about as wanted as a cactus bath. Likewise, when the weekend or off-days roll around, many of us artists want to draw as much as you do, so we proceed with art at the sacrifice of commenting on everything. Critique in particular means plunking down, studying a pic and coming up with some well-thought out opinions (as opposed to the occasional comment with a few lines that I can make, that usually only take a minute or so, or going on TV and saying "it stinks!" ), and in DA's terms, the critique usually doesn't get anything in return. So that kind of feedback is very hard to get, even more so when you're looking for both the bad AND the good at once.

-Your art profile here is fun and diverse, from cute comics to slasher tributes. With that kinda spectrum, your bound to have some pics and subjects that'll turn off some of your fans. I have some that comment only on car pics, some only for pinups, and some for *insert fanart here* I don't think it's meant to offend, it's just more a "I comment on what I like" mentality, which I can admit to having. I can only speak so many lines about a movie that I have never seen or heard of, even when that movie has some great fanart of it now.

-Reciprocation is key. I only speak from personal experience with you here on DA, but this does seem like a "do unto others" scenario. I know you and others mean well when you provide a fave or a one-word comment, but you can't expect to receive back lengthy musings in return if that hasn't been the case on the other side. I appreciate what you can say when you can say it, and I always hope people reciprocate that in turn ( although I know that's not always the case.

In short, I don't think anything's bad at all with your art, it's hard to ask for much more on that front. But asking to really sit down and think to many who do try their hand at comics and artwork as well can be a challenge when one doesn't reciprocate those desires from others. I know you'll get by, and improve either way. After all, art for most (though some on here do work like this for a living) comes down to your own opinions of your work. Be happy with what you draw and you'll be inspired to continue on, regardless of how many comments come and go.

Keep at it Clint!
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Chopfe Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I will admit I've been slacking on commenting on a few pics and comics that I genuinely enjoy, particularly yours. Granted, another reason why I don't have time to comment on a lot of things is that half the time, I can't find the right words to say aside from LOL or XD. I'll try to improve myself on that when I get the chance! :)
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AgentC-24 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think what I meant is less "comment more" and more "rely on your instincts and what you enjoy." So I hope you can improve as an artist regardless of arbitrary feedback and know when you're comfortable enough to ask advice from those whose feedback you're looking for. :thumbsup:
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Granitoons Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm glad you put in that disclaimer about yourself! But at least you DO comment on why you fave half the time. I can quite understand why some people find it hard to say WHY they like something, but once for evry few faves would be good. I would rather have a handful of detailed, explanitory, funny comments than a load of 'cools' and 'XD's.
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Chopfe Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your art is always amazing, man! There have been a few comics and pictures of yours that I've been wanting to get back to you on....I'll have to get on that very soon! ;)
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AgentC-24 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey there Clint. I've addressed these types of journals before with friends, and I'll be happy to address yours as well. I'll just add te disclaimer that I don't mean to offend and I'm doing this to help out with some understanding here. I agree with AM that it's refreshing to see a journal where you can acknowledge your own lack of action from time to time.

With that said, yes, I think every artist has that picture they were psyched to post due to all their effort and inspiration... And it got a tenth of the comments that an ancient and half-assed doodle of Fanart McFavesalot got. It happens, and the best way to go about it is to move on and keep working at it. Why? I've thought of a few reasons before.

-Like you've said about yourself, many DA'ers have jobs, school, or job searches outside of here. Whether it's manual labor or a desk job, some demands can leave people drained, so commenting on a pic during after hours can seem about as wanted as a cactus bath. Likewise, when the weekend or off-days roll around, many of us artists want to draw as much as you do, so we proceed with art at the sacrifice of commenting on everything. Critique in particular means plunking down, studying a pic and coming up with some well-thought out opinions (as opposed to the occasional comment with a few lines that I can make, that usually only take a minute or so, or going on TV and saying "it stinks!" ;) ), and in DA's terms, the critique usually doesn't get anything in return. So that kind of feedback is very hard to get, even more so when you're looking for both the bad AND te good at once.

-Your art profile here is fun and diverse, from cute comics to slasher tributes. With that kinda spectrum, your bound to have some pics and subjects that'll turn off some of your fans. I have some that comment only on car pics, some only for pinups, and some for *insert fanart here* I don't think it's meant to offend, it's just more a "I comment on what I like" mentality, which wen I can admit to having. I can only speak so many lines about a movie that I have never seen or heard of, even when that movie has some great fanart of it now.

-Reciprocation is key. I only speak from personal experience with you here on DA, but this does seem like a "do unto others" scenario. I know you and others mean well when you provide a fave or a one-word comment, but you can't expect to receive back lengthy musings in return if that hasn't been the case on the other side. I appreciate what you can say when you can say it, and I always hope people reciprocate that in turn ( although I know that's not always the case.

In short, I don't think anything's bad at all with your art, it's hard to ask for much more on that front. But asking to really sit down and think to many who do try their hand at comics and artwork as well can be a challenge when one doesn't reciprocate those desires from others. I know you'll get by, and improve either way. After all, art for most (though some on here do work like this for a living) comes down to your own opinions of your work. Be happy with what you draw and you'll be inspired to continue on, regardless of how many comments come and go.

Keep at it, Clint! :)
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AgentC-24 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh dammit, why did I lost this as a reply?!? :doh:
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Granitoons Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Posting in error? :iconyoumustdieplz: YOU MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Droakir Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yes. This. I understand completely.

I'm trying to make an effort to comment more on people's things, and to give nice, detailed responses. I also enjoy the same on my works when I post them. So if you have anything you'd like to say, please say it!

Since you're asking, I would be happy to provide more detailed feedback. How detailed would you like?
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Chopfe Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now I don't want you to feel pressured by all of this, but if you're all up for this, just any honest feedback will do. :)
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Droakir Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Oh no worries. I'm always up to giving people detailed feedback. I just tend to wait until they ask. Far too often on DA I've given people constructive criticism only to get flamed for "not understanding their artistic vision" or some nonsense. It's refreshing to find at least a few that want to hear other people's opinions.
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OptimusBart09 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014
i feel the same way. even when i do something thats relevant to a new series (such as steven universe) i get little to no responses. heck, sometimes i do covers of disney songs and i don't get enough recognition.
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Urvy1A Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am on the same boat too.  I try to do different things, such as fan art, as well as the occasional stories.   
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JWthaMajestic Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Student Filmographer
I get that feeling all to well. When I literally SLAVED for that huge piece...and I get just a few comments. :grump:
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Urvy1A Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're not alone, brother.
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maniacaldude Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Student General Artist
Yeah, I know what that's like, putting a lot into a certain artwork and then not getting that much feedback, that happens to me all the time, and I hate not being able to hear from others as to why they liked a certain work. I can totally relate there, man.
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postalthehedgehog Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I know the feeling not just with art mind you
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